diff --git a/private/app.te b/private/app.te
index 068f09539d42c59c01c373d480b4de27c1679b50..c4147234a6a15f34e7b5837ad57fe02cafc0b9ab 100644
--- a/private/app.te
+++ b/private/app.te
@@ -402,8 +402,10 @@ neverallow appdomain zygote_socket:sock_file write;
 # ptrace access to non-app domains.
 neverallow appdomain { domain -appdomain }:process ptrace;
 
-# Write access to /proc/pid entries for any non-app domain.
-neverallow appdomain { domain -appdomain }:file write;
+# Read or write access to /proc/pid entries for any non-app domain.
+# A different form of hidepid=2 like protections
+neverallow appdomain { domain -appdomain }:file no_w_file_perms;
+neverallow { appdomain -shell } { domain -appdomain }:file no_rw_file_perms;
 
 # signal access to non-app domains.
 # sigchld allowed for parent death notification.
diff --git a/public/te_macros b/public/te_macros
index c7802d5a7bb70fef7174f396c68806b23b6505a5..851a567e4871763be230915cce787d2dfd232e2e 100644
--- a/public/te_macros
+++ b/public/te_macros
@@ -176,6 +176,8 @@ typeattribute $1 appdomain;
 tmpfs_domain($1)
 # Map with PROT_EXEC.
 allow $1 $1_tmpfs:file execute;
+neverallow { $1 -shell } { domain -$1 }:file no_rw_file_perms;
+neverallow { appdomain -shell -$1 } $1:file no_rw_file_perms;
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